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Post by Celia on Aug 4, 2010 18:09:18 GMT -5
I often get random thoughts about physics and the universe and various other things, so I thought I would write them up and put them in a place where I could at least try to convince myself that somebody is going to read them. (Spoiler alert; nobody is going to read these.)
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Theory One: It is often asked that, if time travel exists, where are all the time travelers? My simple answer: they are dead. The Earth (and our solar system, for that matter) is constantly moving. If a person were to send himself any amount of time into the past or the future and appear in the exact same location they were before, the Earth would have moved away from that location, or would not be in that location yet. The time traveler in question would merely float through space and quickly die, as he would be in a vacuum.
Theory Two: It is possible to travel faster then the speed of light, for the reason that speed is relative. Consider the following situation: Two men are walking in opposite directions. To a stationary person, each man would appear to be walking at five miles an hour, but from the perspective of each of the moving men, the other man is moving at ten miles an hour. I propose that all which is required to move faster then the speed of light are two objects which can each individually move slightly faster then half of the speed of light. If each of these object move at full speed away from each other, then each object would appear to be moving faster then the speed of light from the perspective of the other object. I do acknowledge that it is impossible to move faster then the speed of light from the perspective of the stationary object, however.
Theory Three: Legends of ghosts state that the presence of a spirit causes an electrical disturbance, and often have odd interactions with nearby electrical equipment. If ghosts do exist (and I am not saying that they do,) then something interesting would happen if you attacked a ghost with a tazer.
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Post by Cetasaurus on Aug 4, 2010 20:51:42 GMT -5
Wow... you're like a genius or something.
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Post by shadowdeath on Aug 5, 2010 2:18:58 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Aug 6, 2010 0:11:54 GMT -5
Jeez Celia.
You can do one thing REALLY well... and that's it.
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Post by Celia on Aug 6, 2010 10:00:07 GMT -5
Screw you, I can do EVERYTHING AT ONCE!!!
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Post by shadowdeath on Aug 6, 2010 10:19:09 GMT -5
So you believe you can be in multiple places simultaneously?
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Post by Celia on Aug 6, 2010 16:25:55 GMT -5
it's an inside joke between brandon and i.
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Post by shadowdeath on Aug 8, 2010 0:07:20 GMT -5
So you believe you can be in multiple places simultaneously?
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Post by killerinstinct on Aug 19, 2010 8:06:51 GMT -5
I like your first theory. I never thought about it this way.
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Post by shadowdeath on Aug 21, 2010 0:14:44 GMT -5
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Post by Celia on Aug 22, 2010 1:20:05 GMT -5
Theory Four: It is observed that if you cross a certain point in a black hole, which is called an event horizon, you will not be able to move away from it even if you exert infinite energy in attempt to move you in the opposite direction. However, scientists have no idea what happens inside of a black hole, because the phenomena has input but no output. However, from my perspective, it would seem logical that, seeing as the maximum speed moving away from a black hole lowers as you approach it, that as you enter the black hole there is a minimum speed that you must move toward the core as you approach it. However, if this is true, then where does the matter go? It would be impossible to continue at the same speed after it hit the center, and the mass simply cannot just disappear. Some scientists theorize that matter may teleport when it interacts with the black hole, but if it only did so when it is unable to push farther into the center, then the core would surely teleport away as well until the black hole would not have enough mass to sustain an event horizon. In short, this theory is only partially functional.
Theory Five: Something is fundamentally incorrect about the laws of thermodynamics. The second law of thermodynamics states that there is no such thing as perpetual energy. The third law states that absolute zero can never be attained. However, if you can never reach absolute zero, then there must always be heat in the universe. The second law states that this cannot be true as heat is energy, and so if there is always heat in the universe there will be perpetual energy. As long as the second law is true, the third cannot be true. As long as the Third law is true, the second law cannot be true. Dear Laws of Thermodynamics: What the fuck?
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Post by Admin on Aug 22, 2010 2:10:51 GMT -5
Jeez Celia. You can do one thing REALLY well... and that's it.
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Post by Celia on Aug 22, 2010 9:39:28 GMT -5
you need to stop it with that autism joke.
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Post by killerinstinct on Aug 22, 2010 17:28:48 GMT -5
Concerning your theory #4...
If I remember my very old studies on black holes, scientists can't verify what's beyond that horizon, because if you try to go on a space ship and cross it, your body (and the spaceship) won't support the gravity, and explode. Or something like that.
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Post by Celia on Aug 22, 2010 18:27:27 GMT -5
The gravity would be so immense that you would probably be stretched into a string of atoms before you hit the horizon. Also, the reason we don't know what's inside event horizons is that it is physically impossible to escape from the event horizon, even if you exert infinite energy pushing away from it. For this reason any light which were to enter the black hole could never escape, so we can't observe light bouncing off of black holes.
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Post by killerinstinct on Aug 22, 2010 22:30:15 GMT -5
I noes that. It's why it's called a black hole.
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Post by ProMetaAnaTelo on Aug 23, 2010 20:38:22 GMT -5
Proposed Idea: The Human subconscious is actually a branch into the fourth and/or fifth geometrical dimensions that completely interlinks with everyone else subconscious as well as all the subconsciouses of every living thing across the universe that exists within the height, length and depth (Only including things with subconsciouses, no fungi allowed.) As we all are interlinked into a spiderweb of subconsciouses we are all-- at some level-- the same person or at least the same sentience. The sentience exists within our connection to the dimension of time and the curve of time. Once time travel is done we actually move through the dimension of time which moves our connection with the geometrical dimensions. The literal link between ourselves and our physical subconscious literally breaks and we lose what makes us sentient. The thing that separates us from plants, sentience, is in a literal way fractured and that's what the difference between a rock and your neighbor is (exaggerating). Sentience, what we incorrectly refer to as life, is a property of a structure from your body into another dimension. This is how a person that goes into a coma from Kentucky can randomly wake up one day and speak fluent German. And only German. They went into a stasis and their portion of the hive-mind subconscious mingled a bit too much with a German-speaker's subconscious. Though, this is just me blathering on and I don't really believe what I'm saying. EDIT: So, this probably isn't good for me. I never post and when I do I spill out crazies like this.
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Post by Celia on Aug 25, 2010 18:22:49 GMT -5
Don't worry if it sounds weird. It's always good to express your crazy thoughts to people, as I will demonstrate in theory seven.
Theory Six: People are always complaining that, right after a president is elected, employment rates go down, and pundits always blame the elected official in question for that occurrence. I theorize that this is a direct result of the sudden desist in political campaigns. After all, people pour hundreds of millions of dollars into presidential campaigns. That has to fuel hundreds or thousands of jobs.
Theory Seven: There are a good deal of UFOs spotted each year, and people attribute them to aliens. I do believe that aliens exist somewhere, but the simple fact is that they would be too damn far away from us to ever reach us at any point in time. However, all those people have to be seeing something. I theorize that UFOs have not originated from extraterrestrial life, but rather from life on our own planet, from an advanced species of marine life deep under the ocean. Let's look at some of the facts we know concerning this theory. -Only one percent of the deep ocean has been explored. If sentient life exists down there, that's the reason we haven't found it yet. -A good majority of maritime spooky things occur in the Bermuda triangle and a location called the dragon's triangle (which is also known as the devil's sea,) which is the same latitude as the Bermuda triangle and is located near Japan. These could be possible sites of two of many deep sea cities or civilizations. -Many reports of said maritime spooky things state that the UFO rose out of the water before flying away (or doing whatever,) and other reports (which occasionally overlap with the first category) state that the UFO was last seen flying into the water below it. Others state that large inhuman crafts have been seen floating along the surface of the water. (I guess they would be USOs or something.) -A great deal of UFO sighting occur in California, which is a coastal state. Coastal areas would logically be easier to travel to for such creatures.
If this theory is in fact true, then I suspect the marine life in question is a form a cephalopod, because cephalopods can live in incredibly deep sea environments and have incredibly large brain sizes, which are in fact the largest of any invertebrate, now or ever. (The cephalopod family includes squid, octopi, cuttlefishes, and nautili.)
I am such an adamant believer in this theory that, unlike my other theories, I am going to name it. I call it the 'Civilized Marine Biology' theory, unless somebody has a better suggestion. (I am open to ideas.)
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Post by shadowdeath on Aug 25, 2010 20:19:26 GMT -5
California is a large state.
And wouldn't that mean florida has a lot more sightings? Or states close to the triangle?
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Post by Celia on Aug 25, 2010 21:19:02 GMT -5
You have a point about California, but concerning the Florida thing, I'm not saying that these things live absolutely everywhere. If anything, they would probably be sparse and far apart. Plus, they would almost certainly have the fundamental problem of lack of long-distance communication. This would prevent any cultural diffusion, so even if some advanced to civilization, there would still be a good deal of them who were significantly less advanced. My point is that some of these things could have advanced technology far enough that they could manage to travel a good distance over land, while others can barely design craft which could move over the waters.
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Post by killerinstinct on Aug 27, 2010 5:52:54 GMT -5
Perhaps in California, everyone's drugged. Or perhaps near California, the government is doing some secret experiments that no one should know about but that some people are seeing but it's still a SECRET! *conspiracy theory, dun dun DUN! or something like that*
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Post by daryl1730 on Aug 27, 2010 20:05:46 GMT -5
The first theory seems to make the assumption that a society capable of time travel would somehow overlook the fact that planets move, and the equally unlikely assumption that any time traveler would travel without any infrastructure at all, never mind infrastructure designed to operate in space. It also assumes time travel would occur by some spontaneous apparation like in the Terminator, rather then occupying each moment of time between the present and your destination time at variable speed, though like the third theory I'm guessing this one was more just an amusing thought you had.
General relativity already accounts for number two. When objects are moving at ridiculously fast speeds, speeds no longer simply add like that. Rather, the formula becomes: relative speed = (u + v) / (1 + ((u*v)/c^2)) Where u and v are the individual speeds and c is the speed of light. Then the speeds are very low, like speeds humans routinely reach, the term in the denominator is almost exactly 1, so the approximate formula speed = u + v, which you used, is approximately correct. When u and v are relatively close to the speed of light, though, the term u*v/c^2 becomes larger and larger, until it becomes c^2/c^2 when both u and v are the speed of light, which only occurs for particles free of mass. When this happens the denominator becomes 2, and since the numerator is 2*c, the relative velocity is still just c. For all speeds below 0 and c, this formula keeps their relative velocities between 0 and c. For more information you can google "Relativistic velocity".
Like mentioned in the first, the third was just a fun thought.
The fourth has confusing wording. I'm not sure what you mean by a minimum speed moving away. The event horizon is the radius around a black hole where the escape velocity is the speed of light, which is why nothing can escape a black hole because the speed of light is unattainable. Black holes do have some output, you might want to look up Hawking radiation. You also make the troubling assumption that once something reaches the core it has to stop, rather than perhaps orbiting around it at ridiculously high velocities. In fact you might even find that the exact center is hollow, with most of the mass orbiting just outside it, but probably not. For the teleporting thing I think you're referring to white holes, which so far there has been virtually no evidence of, despite that, theoretically, they would be ridiculously easy to find if they did exist.
The fifth one is just a misunderstanding. The conservation of energy is relevant, and the second law of thermodynamics states that entropy in the universe will always increase statistically speaking, basically meaning that the energy in the universe will gradually become more useless. Stars will burn out, planetary cores will cool, galaxies will fade to darkness, etc. The energy isn't disappearing, it's just being converted. Starts radiate their energy as photons and other particles, those particles radiate into the universe. Some hit objects and make them a little hotter, others just keep going. Planets and other hot objects radiate their heat away gradually just the same way, and through convection. As time goes on and the entropy in the universe increases indefinitely, over much much larger timescales than the current age of the universe, the average temperature will decrease, due to the expansion of the universe (Same amount of energy in larger space = colder). As the universe gets larger and larger compared to the amount of energy it contains, the temperature will gradually approach absolute zero, though because there is energy, it will never actually achieve this temperature. It's commonly accepted that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, though if you're interested in the subject you might want to look up stuff like "virtual particles" and the "Casimir effect".
I've never heard of the effect you mention in the sixth one and pundits aren't really qualified to comment on such matter, but I sincerely doubt enough people take part in a campaign to have a noticeable effect on national employment to the extent pundits would use it as an attack point.
Regarding seven, I agree that it's pretty foolish to assume aliens are actually visiting earth and likely foolish to assume they don't exist, for reasons of distance, motive, and probability. You're wrong that less than 1% has been explored, it's more like a bit less than 10%, but that doesn't really affect your theory much, as it's still so small. I don't see the relevance of the two mentioned triangles being at similar latitudes either. Most of the other points here are both hard to either attack or verify, but I'll note my personal belief that it is extremely unlikely a civilization at our level of development would be able to detect no verifiable repeatable signs of a society at that level of development. Also that UFO sightings are usually just people having some fun or not being able to identify something which is not an alien spacecraft, such as military aircraft or weather balloons or lost kites or funny shaped clouds or what have you. I also think the point about Florida was more valid than given credit for, considering you specifically brought up Bermuda in your argument, implying that's where some of the more advanced ones live. And why would they have a lack of long distance communication?
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Post by daryl1730 on Aug 27, 2010 20:23:25 GMT -5
Proposed Idea: The Human subconscious is actually a branch into the fourth and/or fifth geometrical dimensions that completely interlinks with everyone else subconscious as well as all the subconsciouses of every living thing across the universe that exists within the height, length and depth (Only including things with subconsciouses, no fungi allowed.) As we all are interlinked into a spiderweb of subconsciouses we are all-- at some level-- the same person or at least the same sentience. The sentience exists within our connection to the dimension of time and the curve of time. Once time travel is done we actually move through the dimension of time which moves our connection with the geometrical dimensions. The literal link between ourselves and our physical subconscious literally breaks and we lose what makes us sentient. The thing that separates us from plants, sentience, is in a literal way fractured and that's what the difference between a rock and your neighbor is (exaggerating). Sentience, what we incorrectly refer to as life, is a property of a structure from your body into another dimension. This is how a person that goes into a coma from Kentucky can randomly wake up one day and speak fluent German. And only German. They went into a stasis and their portion of the hive-mind subconscious mingled a bit too much with a German-speaker's subconscious. Though, this is just me blathering on and I don't really believe what I'm saying. EDIT: So, this probably isn't good for me. I never post and when I do I spill out crazies like this. Given that this whole thing seems to depend on the notion that conscious beings are special in some sort of religious-esque way, I'd dismiss it out of hand, but I'll also go through specific points that I don't like. For something to branch into a dimension in would require some sort of physical form. I guess you could just say they do but not in our dimensions, so they exist as some sort of two dimensional thing, occupying two dimensions and maybe bending around the 3D universe, but even then you could just literally rotate it into being visible in the normal universe. Unless by "geometric dimension" you meant something that's not a geometric dimension. We are moving through time with every passing moment of the day, usually at the rate of one second per second. Per the theory of relativity, time is relative to the speed at which you move (and location in a gravitational field). People on airplanes are travelling through time at a slightly slower rate than you are. The GPS satellites in orbit around Earth have to routinely be corrected because their on-board clocks go on slower than clocks on Earth due to their different velocities and position in the Earth's gravitational field. If you get to a precise enough level, the different atoms in your body are progressing through time at ever so slightly different rates. This part of your post is, apparently, demonstrably false. I've never once heard someone refer to sentience as life. Most people consider plants to be alive, and most also do not attribute sentience to plants. Ignoring that sentience itself is extremely poorly defined, I have also heard it attributed to things which nearly no one considers to be alive, such as computers (read: Androids from the future). No one can randomly wake from a coma and speak a language they have never learned before. I think I've heard about what you're probably referring to, which was a case of someone going into a coma and waking up not recalling their native language, but recalling a second one they'd picked up. That is completely different. And I recall the credibility of that article being called into question too.
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Post by Celia on Aug 27, 2010 21:44:27 GMT -5
I said deep ocean, not regular ocean.
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Post by daryl1730 on Aug 27, 2010 22:33:49 GMT -5
I said deep ocean, not regular ocean. Fair enough. I was riding on it being around space travel technology. I think a civilization that's reached that prowess would have a sufficiently large effect on the surrounding environment that they would be detectable even from a distance. Say, through unnatural contaminations of the environment, or maybe electromagnetic radiation. I've not taken offense. I may have gotten a bit carried away after a while given that I really just started to reply to the second theory about the relative velocity formula, but overall I was just giving the theories a critical view, second opinion, and/or fact checking when appropriate. Maybe it did hit a bit close to home since I used to come up with crackpot theories all the time (As Brandon could attest to) when I was in the 9th grade or so, most of which I now realize I could have easily discovered to be resolved or flatly false with some simple internet research. Though they did help me develop some of my own interests in Science, which would be why I listed a bunch of other topics of related interest in my reply. Edit: Actually, Meta's post did make me mad.
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