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Post by Admin on Sept 5, 2009 17:40:03 GMT -5
Remember ToMblem? Well, I decided... since the last one was such a burden to do alone, I decided...
Let's make this shit interesting!
The plot of Fire Emblem 7 will be rewritten (with help, naturally) and all members (excluding Michael, who would just make this difficult) get a part in making it... assuming everyone has played Fire Emblem, and if you haven't, I suggest you download it.
I want all characters to be renamed with a new personality, right down to Hannah the witch. I'm going to later post parts and portions of the in-game text.
Keeping in mind that you'll have to try to keep text around the same length, I want you all to write your own support conversations. If you control Eliwood, and your friend controls Lyn, then you two must team up to write your supports. It will make things infinitely easier for me...
This is still just an idea, so if you're willing to help, and I mean REALLY help, then please reply. Essentially, it'd be easier if supports were done by ToM and co, and I worked on the plot (Since it'd be a bitch to post the entire Fire Emblem text on ToM)
That is all.
CHARACTERS FILLED:
Eliwood: Lisa
Hector: Laura
Lyn: Kinda
Raven: Laura
Geitz:
Guy: Laura (Class change to Nomad)
Karel: Laura (Class change to thief)
Dorcas:
Bartre:
Oswin: Griffin
Wil: Griffin
Rebecca: Lisa
Louise:
Lucius: Brandon (Class change to Female Shaman)
Serra: Kinda (Change class to Troubadour)
Renault:
Erk: Brandon (Class change to Monk)
Nino: Andie
Pent: Laura (Class change to Monk)
Canas: Griffin
Kent: Lisa
Sain: Lisa
Lowen: Brandon
Marcus:
Priscilla: Andie
Rath: Alex
Florina: Brandon
Fiora: Laura (Class change to Wyvern Rider)
Farina: Laura (Class change to Female Myrmidon)
Heath: Alex
Vaida:
Hawkeye:
Matthew: Griffin
Jaffar:
Ninian:
Nils:
Athos: Matt
Merlinus:
Wallace:
Dart: Brandon (Change class to Mercenary)
Isadora: Brandon (Class change to Cavalier)
Legault:
Karla: Brandon (Change class to Assassin)
Harken:
CHARACTERS NEW NAMES:
Eliwood:
Hector: Za'ke
Lyn: Adnik
Raven: Amon
Geitz:
Guy: Daniel
Karel: Alan
Dorcas:
Bartre:
Oswin:
Wil:
Rebecca:
Louise:
Lucius: Elle
Serra:
Renault:
Erk: Set
Nino:
Pent: Drake
Canas: Elric
Kent:
Sain:
Lowen:
Marcus:
Priscilla:
Rath:
Florina:
Fiora: Katie
Farina: Laura
Heath:
Vaida:
Hawkeye:
Matthew:
Jaffar:
Ninian:
Nils:
Athos:
Merlinus:
Wallace:
Dart: Brandon
Isadora: Lumina
Legault:
Karla: Zofia
Harken:
SUPPORTS COMPLETE:
Amon/Elle =Complete.
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Post by Griffin on Sept 5, 2009 22:10:20 GMT -5
I'm in. I'd love to partake.
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Post by Admin on Sept 6, 2009 4:39:31 GMT -5
Update: I thought up a system to determine growth rates for characters.
Since I'll assume everyone picks 2-4 characters and doesn't settle for one, If I tell you all to give whatever growths you want, then we'll have too many badass characters.
If I only hand out so many points, then there's no real joy to finding a good character, since all the characters will have the same amount of growths.
But... in this case, what if we played favorites?
Using myself as an example...
I chose Lucius, Jaffar, and Erk.
In this particular hack, I want Lucius to be a strong unit.
Since Lucius is my first choice, then I'll get 320% to fill his
HP:
Strength:
Skill:
Speed:
Luck:
Defense:
Resistance:
Let's say I divide it up like this...
Lucius:
HP: 75%
Strength: 25%
Skill: 25%
Speed: 75%
Luck: 50%
Defense: 50%
Resistance: 20%
Next, I want my new thief Jaffar to be decent, so I give my second choice 300% to fill his stat growths.
Jaffar:
HP: 15
Strength: 35
Skill: 45
Speed: 50
Luck: 40
Defense: 55
Resistance: 60
See? Not as great as Lucius, but clearly a good unit.
Now, I don't like Erk as much as Jaffar or Lucius, so he gets suckier growths. He'll get 280%
Erk:
HP: 20
Strength: 45
Skill: 40
Speed: 20
Luck: 80
Defense: 20
Resistance: 55
Erk sucks a little more than Jaffer and much more than Lucius!
Did you know...
Of the playble characters in Fire Emblem 7, the one with the lowest total Percent Growth was Jaffar, the Angel of Death?
He's got the lowest, scoring at 235%
Second place is tied at 240%. Tying character are: Renault, Vaida, and Hawkeye.
The Non prepromote with the lowest Percent growth is: Wallace at 275%, though, he is often lumped with prepromotes during easy mode, meaning that for easy mode, the lowest-growth character is...
a multi-character tie.
At 285%, it's
Dorcas, Erk, Rath, and Canas.
Best character (excluding Merlinus, Nils, and Ninian) is: Lyn and Hector, tied for 335% Nino came close with 330%.
That's enough facts for now. Basically, your first-choice character gets 320%, second choice gets 300%, and third gets 280%, and fourth will get 260%.
Stat growths are easy and simple, so don't freak. I can do them whenever, so whenever you pick your character, just slap your growths on. And don't try to get bonus numbers, because I check. Be sure to check here for updates.
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Post by shadowdeath on Sept 7, 2009 15:17:14 GMT -5
Give me one char or something.
Sounds like fun.
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2009 17:43:12 GMT -5
Give me one char or something. Sounds like fun. I'll give you Rath. He uses a bow, he rides a horse, and he's pretty badass looking. |
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Post by Wulfi on Sept 7, 2009 18:07:44 GMT -5
Can I snag Rebecca?
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2009 18:10:27 GMT -5
k
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Post by Griffin on Sept 7, 2009 18:54:26 GMT -5
I'll pick up Oswin.
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Post by shadowdeath on Sept 7, 2009 22:24:08 GMT -5
Give me one char or something. Sounds like fun. I'll give you Rath. He uses a bow, he rides a horse, and he's pretty badass looking. Coool I get 320%? |
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Post by Admin on Sept 7, 2009 22:50:06 GMT -5
I'll give you Rath. He uses a bow, he rides a horse, and he's pretty badass looking. Coool I get 320%? Yes you do! |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 7, 2009 22:58:29 GMT -5
I might actually use him then...
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Post by killerinstinct on Sept 8, 2009 2:51:53 GMT -5
Can I have my sweet cute lil' Lyn?
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Post by shadowdeath on Sept 8, 2009 12:33:54 GMT -5
Rath
HP: 65
Strength: 60
Skill:55
Speed: 50
Luck: 20
Defense: 50
Resistance: 20
Would this be okay?
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Post by Admin on Sept 10, 2009 1:58:39 GMT -5
Since we're going to be doing some MAJOR text editing, it's about time I start training you guys.
I'm using a parser to edit all text issues, and Nightmare Modules to edit all character growths, classes, and animation colors (which won't get much changes hopefully)
There will be a LOT of text flying around before we figure out how to organize everything, so I'm going to show you all what you'll be working with. (It's essentially very simple.)
[X]
## @@b80a10@@
## AEB5BC
[TargMediRight][OpenChar 0102 'Eliwood']
[TargMediLeft][OpenChar 010C 'Hector']
[Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
Ah, Eliwood![Ctrl 0x0005] It's good to[NL]
see you're still well![K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][Ctrl 0x0017][Ctrl 0x0016][NL]
Hm.[Ctrl 0x0016][Ctrl 0x0005] You expected otherwise?[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
No, of course not.[NL]
I knew you'd be fine.[K]
[ExitChar]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
Hector, wait for a moment.[Ctrl 0x0005][NL]
What did you want?[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][OpenChar 010C 'Hector']
[Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
Nothing. It's enough to see that[NL]
you live and are still fighting.[K]
[Ctrl 0x0002][NL]
Just wanted to make sure you weren't[NL]
overdoing it with me not around.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
I should say the same to you.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
Me? Don't worry about me. I'm fine.[NL]
I'm built tough, you know.[K]
[NL]
A little too much is just[NL]
enough for me.[K]
[Ctrl 0x0017][Ctrl 0x0002][NL]
But you, you've never been[NL]
a hardy one, Eliwood.[K]
[NL]
Nor are you used to travel.[NL]
Go on too long, and you'll collapse.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][NL]
We're all weaklings compared[NL]
to you, Hector.[K]
[NL]
...Thankfully, wars are not[NL]
won by strength alone, eh?[K]
[NL]
We've been sparring once every[NL]
two months since we were twelve,[K]
[NL]
and of 30 matches, 14 I won,[NL]
12 I lost, and 4 were draws.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][NL]
Erh?[Ctrl 0x0005] I think not![K]
[NL]
I recall 31 matches--an even[NL]
13-13 split, with 5 draws![K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][NL]
Yes, well, you recall wrong.[NL]
I'm in the right.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][NL]
Hmph.[Ctrl 0x0005] And what makes[NL]
you so certain?[K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][NL]
Whose snoring was it that shook[NL]
the rafters in numbers class?[K]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][NL]
Ah, good point.[K]
[NL]
[TargMediRight][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
...Still, I'm touched you[NL]
were worried about me.[K]
[NL]
Now, back to the fray![K]
[ExitChar]
[NL]
[TargMediLeft][Ctrl 0x0017][NL]
Hey, wait![Ctrl 0x0005][NL]
...Blast.[K]
That's the Hector/Eliwood C support.
Since Laura has control of Hector, she is the one to write the dialogue for Hector. Eliwood is unpicked currently, but let's assume that Imaginary ToM Member ToasterSpider picks Eliwood. The two would have to very carefully make sure that they don't accidentally steal dialogue from the other character. The only way to determine what character is yours is by where they enter.
[TargMediRight][OpenChar 0102 'Eliwood'] <- All words following TargMediRight are from Eliwood.
[TargMediLeft][OpenChar 010C 'Hector'] <- All words following TargMediLeft are Hector.
Currently, it might look ugly, but get over it quick, because there are more difficulties you'll have to deal with.
Basic rules: Text box length does not change to adapt to words said by characters. If you write too much, then words could end up offscreen, and especially in support conversations, where you need to really go out of your way to find errors.
DO NOT. DO NOT. DO NOT. And I mean DO NOT screw around with shit in brackets. That's uncharted territory, and one accidental slip-up, or an extra backspace, and the entire support is ruined.
Some shit in brackets causes characters to move/disappear. Try to make sure your new supports will make sense with the movement.
I understand there will be questions, but when you fool around with this some more, you'll understand how the basics work. Remember, don't be afraid to ask. And if our new hack is good enough, we could even spread it around the internet.
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Post by Wulfi on Sept 10, 2009 17:06:44 GMT -5
If no one wants Eliwood, I'll snag him.  |
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Post by Bitchy Grammar Queen on Sept 10, 2009 17:26:32 GMT -5
I'd like to snag you, if you know what I mean. |
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Post by shadowdeath on Sept 10, 2009 20:27:49 GMT -5
No we don't.
Please explain.
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Post by Bitchy Grammar Queen on Sept 11, 2009 0:07:52 GMT -5
It means that I would like to bring her back to my castle so I can munch her sweet taco.
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Post by Wulfi on Sept 12, 2009 20:00:46 GMT -5
I'm flattered, but no.
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Post by Admin on Sept 13, 2009 1:25:04 GMT -5
It means that I would like to bring her back to my castle so I can munch her sweet taco. Do I have to call the sexual harassment police on you? |
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Post by Admin on Sept 19, 2009 18:32:41 GMT -5
Okay, I've been trying to figure things out, and one thing I want to do is...
I want to give the player incentive to use characters that appear later in the game.
For the most part, characters like Karla, Geitz, and Renault are just trophies.
I'm aware that later in the game, you get quite a bit of shitty characters, but because we have such control over their fates, why can't we make this awful characters into great ones?
That's why...
I want later-appearing characters to get better stats over the ones who are in more chapters.
Example:
Wallace appears first, but he's only around 2 chapters before he disappears for a while.
Oswin isn't around for about 11 chapters, but appears until the end.
Since Wallace appears less than Oswin, shouldn't it be fair that Oswin is a little weaker than Wallace?
BUT! There's also the possibility of not getting to Wallace at all, and going to Geitz. Because Geitz is harder to get to, shouldn't he be even better than Wallace?
In short, I want to give the later characters a fighting chance at being used.
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Post by Wulfi on Sept 20, 2009 21:28:11 GMT -5
I like that idea.
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Post by Golden Emblem on Sept 25, 2009 14:49:20 GMT -5
Hey Brandon, how about the bad guys? XP
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2009 18:37:39 GMT -5
Enemies will be given away after all good roles are filled. I'm still trying to figure everything out.
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Post by Golden Emblem on Sept 27, 2009 9:01:48 GMT -5
Oh guys, for help with the support conversations, there's this. www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/468480/26844It shows who has supports with who, so you can get an idea of who you're working with on it. For example, as Hector, I've got to work with Lisa, Kinda, and Griffin (twice). There's still two characters unknown, and I have to write a conversation by myself for Hector/Farina. And guys, it's FUN. If you didn't notice, there's a support up complete between Brandon and myself. It took three hours over MSN to do, but you'll enjoy it. |
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Post by killerinstinct on Sept 27, 2009 16:37:53 GMT -5
I'm picking another character: Serra.
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Post by Admin on Sept 27, 2009 20:27:26 GMT -5
Okay, and I'm dropping Jaffar, and choosing Heath.
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Post by Golden Emblem on Sept 27, 2009 21:59:22 GMT -5
Switching Canas for Karel.
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Post by Admin on Sept 27, 2009 22:33:28 GMT -5
Giving up Heath, taking Dart.
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Post by Griffin on Sept 27, 2009 22:35:24 GMT -5
Picking up Canas, renamed Elric.  |
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